User talk:FunnyMath
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Nunabas (talk) 19:14, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
A kitten for you![edit]
Gracias
Albertolancha (talk) 21:11, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
Before you delete the image and proclaim "not own work", you should ask the person who uploaded the image! This is MY image, and I AM the administrator of the Facebook page to which you refer, because I WORK at the observatory. Undelete the image! Sergei Schmalz (talk) 01:22, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Sergei Schmalz: If the image is indeed your own work, you may send a ticket to OTRS. New topics on talk pages should go on the bottom. I hope you do not mind if I move it down. FunnyMath (talk) 02:10, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
- @FunnyMath: Then why Wikipedia offers to upload "own work" if someone like you later deletes is without even asking, with not a single try to get informed first, and then I have to go through all this trouble?!? This doesnt make any sense at all. Do you really think I am going to waste my time with a ticket to OTRS?!? This sucks and only discourages to do any useful work for Wikipedia! In law, if you proclaim that I am not the author, then YOU have to take the burden and to prove it! Not me! Sergei Schmalz (talk) 02:22, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
- "Own work" should be used if and only if the image is your own work and is not available on the Internet anywhere else. I did not delete the photo. I merely nominated it to be deleted. An administrator agreed with my decision and deleted it. Wikimedia Commons takes copyright very seriously, so you must send a ticket to OTRS to confirm that the image is your own work. FunnyMath (talk) 02:27, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
- @FunnyMath: Then why Wikipedia offers to upload "own work" if someone like you later deletes is without even asking, with not a single try to get informed first, and then I have to go through all this trouble?!? This doesnt make any sense at all. Do you really think I am going to waste my time with a ticket to OTRS?!? This sucks and only discourages to do any useful work for Wikipedia! In law, if you proclaim that I am not the author, then YOU have to take the burden and to prove it! Not me! Sergei Schmalz (talk) 02:22, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
Copyvio tag for my recent contributions[edit]
I have noticed all the recent copyvio tags on some images I just uploaded. Please talk to me first before doing that, I genuinely do own most of those images or have been given them by their owners to use on their pages.
- You must have the copyright holders of the images send a ticket to OTRS to confirm that they are willing to publish their works under a free license. Otherwise, we take precautionary principle and assume that the uploads are copyright violations. FunnyMath (talk) 02:18, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
What do you I do about the deceased then? Abdu Gusau is my Grad Dad and he is late, I am in possession of his original photos, and documents that you've just tagged for deletion! how else do I get a ticket from a deceased person? I was working on gathering citations for those pages. You're seriously wrecking my effort here.
- You get permission from the copyright holder of the photo, not the subject of the photo. FunnyMath (talk) 02:32, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
File:Fred Rogers and King Friday XIII.jpg[edit]
Hey FunnyMath! Thanks for all of your Mr. Rogers' pics! I was wondering if there's a free-use version of File:Fred Rogers and King Friday XIII.jpg but in color that can be uploaded here? --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 10:57, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
- Hi TDKR Chicago 101. I'm glad that you enjoyed the photos I've uploaded! I don't think the color version is in the public domain. The black and white version is certainly in the public domain because that's the way it was printed on the press photo. That's why I didn't upload it in color; I had to convert the color version to black and white myself to get around the copyright issue. Free-use color photos of Mr. Rogers are rare to come by. FunnyMath (talk) 11:57, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
Arquivo: Foto oficial prefeito de petrolina miguel coelho.jpg[edit]
A pessoa que associou uma obra a este documento dedicou-a ao domínio público, renunciando a todos os seus direitos sobre a obra em todo o mundo ao abrigo da legislação de direitos de autor, incluindo a todos os direitos legais conexos, na medida permitida por lei. Pode copiar, modificar, distribuir e executar a obra, até com fins comerciais, sem pedir autorização. Pnz vini (talk) 18:47, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
File:JFSS 2.jpg[edit]
Hi FunnyMath! Thanks for bringing the licensing issues to my attention. Unfortunately, I'm a bit too busy at the moment to resolve this issue. If you could, please contact the original photographer at his email rselzer@sutton.com and I'm sure he will be happy to accommodate any written permissions. If not, then please remove the file for me as I do not know how. Thanks. --Valorant (talk) 02:12, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Valorant: Hey there. Thank you for sending me the email address. I'll contact the photographer for you and see if they're willing to freely license the image. I'll remove the missing permission tag for now. I'll also give you an update whenever I will send the email and get a response. FunnyMath (talk) 03:51, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Valorant: I am very sorry that I only got around to this after over two years. I've been meaning to contact the email address, but I kept putting it off. I've just sent an email to them and I'll be keeping you updated. If they don't reply within a month, I'll have the photo deleted. FunnyMath (talk) 13:41, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Valorant: Good news: they responded and they said that they're willing to give permission for not only this photo, but all photos on their website. We should see a VRT template on the file page soon enough. FunnyMath (talk) 15:21, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- Again, I want to apologize for being so late in getting around to this issue. I've made a promise that I'll contact the copyright holder, and it's only fair if I do it in a timely manner. Next time I'm not going to be this late. FunnyMath (talk) 00:26, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
- Permission is now confirmed at File:JFSS 2.jpg FunnyMath (talk) 07:47, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
- A correction: the copyright holder is willing to license other photos on the website, but only on an individual basis. See User_talk:Mdaniels5757#Question_about_VRTS_permission_at_File:JFSS_2.jpg FunnyMath (talk) 15:40, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
- Permission is now confirmed at File:JFSS 2.jpg FunnyMath (talk) 07:47, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
- Again, I want to apologize for being so late in getting around to this issue. I've made a promise that I'll contact the copyright holder, and it's only fair if I do it in a timely manner. Next time I'm not going to be this late. FunnyMath (talk) 00:26, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Valorant: Good news: they responded and they said that they're willing to give permission for not only this photo, but all photos on their website. We should see a VRT template on the file page soon enough. FunnyMath (talk) 15:21, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Valorant: I am very sorry that I only got around to this after over two years. I've been meaning to contact the email address, but I kept putting it off. I've just sent an email to them and I'll be keeping you updated. If they don't reply within a month, I'll have the photo deleted. FunnyMath (talk) 13:41, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
File:Covid-19 Vaccine Bottle Mockup.jpg[edit]
Hello! Thank you for your alertness regarding the license issues with my latest upload. I was unaware that uploading a single photo from unsplash to commons is in violation with their licence (in view of this explanation). I was hoping if you could give me advice. Can this be solved by emailing the original uploader and asking for their permission? --TheBartgry (talk) 09:38, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hey TheBartgry. Sorry for this extremely late reply. I took a break due to mental health issues. You can ask the author of the image to send an email to OTRS stating that they freely licensed the image. You can find the full details here. The author can use the blue button at the top to generate the appropriate response. I would mention to the OTRS team (through here) that File:Covid-19 Vaccine Bottle Mockup.jpg is the link to the relevant image. The team will undelete the image once permission is obtained. FunnyMath (talk) 21:26, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- You can also tell the author that File:Covid-19 Vaccine Bottle Mockup.jpg is the link to the image you want permission from. That way, they can mention the link in the email template when using the blue button. FunnyMath (talk) 21:32, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reply. I have since been informed that the image conflicts with w:WP:NOT and is therefore unwanted on wikipedia. I'll leave it deleted. I'm still curious about your view of uploading images from unsplash on commons. Could you elaborate a bit? TheBartgry (talk) 10:19, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- @TheBartgry: Sorry for the late reply again. I'll be more punctual this time.
- Wikimedia Commons is not Wikipedia, so images uploaded to Commons does not need to comply with w:WP:NOT. As long as the images are within Common's scope, they can stay on Commons. I believe that the vaccine image is within scope, so if you get the author's permission, you can upload it on Commons. The reason why uploading the vaccine image to Wikipedia would fail w:WP:NOT is because Wikipedia is not an image repository. Wikipedia only stores nonfree images that would comply with fair use, which the vaccine image probably does not. However, you can use any image on Commons in a Wikipedia article. So while the vaccine image cannot be stored on Wikipedia's servers, if you can upload it on Commons, then you are welcome to use it on any Wikipedia article (such as the COVID-19 pandemic article).
- Unsplash initially released all of its images into the public domain via the CC0 license. However, on June 5, 2017, Unsplash switched to a custom license that forbids images from being:
- sold without "significant modification"
- compiled to replicate a service that competes with Unsplash
- The CC0 license is irrevocable, so all images published on Unsplash before June 5, 2017 are allowed on Commons without further permission. Since the vaccine image was published after that date, you'll need to contact the author and have them release the image under a free license. You can read more about the license change in this Commons template and in this Wikipedia article.
- FunnyMath (talk) 21:54, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for this clear explanation! The CC0 license before June 2017 of Unsplash is good to keep mind. I only upload images on Commons to use them on Wikipedia, so I don't think I will contact the author to ask for permission. Thanks again. TheBartgry (talk) 13:57, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
- @TheBartgry: You're welcome! FunnyMath (talk) 21:33, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for this clear explanation! The CC0 license before June 2017 of Unsplash is good to keep mind. I only upload images on Commons to use them on Wikipedia, so I don't think I will contact the author to ask for permission. Thanks again. TheBartgry (talk) 13:57, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reply. I have since been informed that the image conflicts with w:WP:NOT and is therefore unwanted on wikipedia. I'll leave it deleted. I'm still curious about your view of uploading images from unsplash on commons. Could you elaborate a bit? TheBartgry (talk) 10:19, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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Yes, I am the author of this variant.--Iflwlou (talk) 15:27, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
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Bridgit M. Balfour photos[edit]
Well, they deleted them. I really think this was a mistake. They seem to be going with the idea that an institutional release in the closing days of that institution can be revisited after it closes and just deleted. Adam Cuerden (talk) 22:08, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Adam Cuerden: I'm trying to see if we can get those photos restored. See Commons:Village_pump/Copyright#MRC_National_Institute_for_Medical_Research_photos FunnyMath (talk) 01:22, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Adam Cuerden: Pinging you again, since I misspelled your name in the first ping. FunnyMath (talk) 01:29, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
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Mys_721tx (talk) 00:58, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
- 仅有政府工作人员职务作品属于著作权法规定的公有领域。请不要在版权过期前加入私人通信等非职务作品文件。-Mys_721tx (talk) 01:08, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Mys 721tx: 但是那封信上面写着"中国人民政治协商会议全国委员会": File:Letter to Ya Xiong by Yang Xianzhen, May 18, 1983 (scan 1 of 4 from Art Fox Live, front side).jpg 您好想把签名恢复了,所以您可能已经知道了。
- 我试图只上传职务作品。我不明白为什么林彪的信不是职务作品。请帮我了解。对我来说,那封信的草书难读。谢谢! FunnyMath (talk) 03:30, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
- 林彪1949年之前不担任公职,其作品受版权保护。 Mys_721tx (talk) 04:32, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
- 哦明白了。对不起,我下次小心一点。谢谢帮我了解。 FunnyMath (talk) 04:47, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
- 林彪1949年之前不担任公职,其作品受版权保护。 Mys_721tx (talk) 04:32, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
Nice work![edit]
I really love all of the uploads you do. They are super interesting and I think really help to fill in gaps throughout the Wiki spaces. Is there any particular method you use for sourcing the images you find? MonkeyBBGB (talk) 14:05, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
- @MonkeyBBGB: Sorry about the late reply! I had errands to do right after my last upload. I really appreciate that you enjoy the photos; it really means a lot to me.
- It's kind of hard to explain how I find photos to upload, since I use so many resources. My explanation below is very long, but it more or less describes my method. I might have to write out a full guide later.
- I find that I would pick an American celebrity (usually actors) who flourished from the 1930s to 1980s, and then look up photos for them. For example, I would type in "George Carlin photo" into eBay or WorthPoint or Historic Images. I even use Google, which helped me find photos from expired eBay auctions, such as File:Portrait of Tom Lehrer in c. 1957.jpg.
- I would also sometimes pick an American film or TV series published before March 1, 1989 (when copyright notices were required), and type its name in, like "With Six You Get Eggroll photo". Photos for TV series usually don't have copyright notices. However, photos for movies are more likely to have them. Because of that, I mostly only focus on films published before 1964 (when renewals were required in addition to having copyright notices), but in rare cases photos for films after 1963 are published without notice.
- I would then try to find photos that were published before March 1, 1989, and have both front and back side scans available. For eBay, a lot of sellers only show the front side, so I just contact them and say that I'm interested in their photo and ask for a picture of the back side.
- A lot of photos are watermarked by the sellers. I would use their watermarked scans to prove that a photo is in the public domain, and then try to find an unwatermarked version (e.g. File:Portrait of Amos Milburn, c. 1955.jpg). Getty Images and Alamy usually have them. I recently found that there are websites that help you get unwatermarked photos from those two sites: one for Getty Images and one for Alamy.
- If a photo is published before 1964, then you can almost certainly upload them even if they have a copyright notice, since their copyright had to be renewed, which is rarely done. If there's a copyright notice on the front side, then you don't even need the back side to prove that it's in the public domain (e.g. File:Cry for Happy (1961) Press Photo of Miiko Taka (3).jpg).
- A lot of book covers for American books published before March 1, 1989 are in the public domain. This is because the dust jacket for a book needed to have its own copyright notice, and a lot of jackets don't have them. I use pictures from eBay, WorthPoint and AbeBooks to prove that a dust jacket has no copyright notices, and then find a high-res scan of the book cover, usually on Heritage Auctions, but sometimes also on the three sites that I mentioned before (e.g. File:Pet Sematary (1983) front cover, first edition.jpg). Sometimes you can even find scans for entire dust jackets on Heritage Auctions, so the scan itself proves that the dust jacket is public domain (e.g. File:The Stand (1978) dust jacket, first edition.png). Even covers for softcover books are usually public domain, but they're more tricky to do (e.g. File:Carrie (1974) front cover, Signet, first printing, April 1975.jpg). Book covers usually have a photo of the author, so they're a great source for biographies too. So if you want to find photos for say, Stephen King, you can just find the covers for his books. In fact, I already put several photos of him on his Wikipedia article.
- I also use Newspapers.com to find photos (e.g. this and this). A lot of newspapers published before March 1, 1989 didn't have a copyright notice for the newspapers themselves nor for the photos that are in the newspapers, which means a lot of public domain photos can be found. Big name newspapers like the Chicago Tribune or the Los Angeles Times usually have copyright notices. However, if the newspaper is published before 1964, it's most likely public domain anyways since renewal was required.
- As a last step, I try to see if there is a higher quality version of the photo that I'm uploading. I put the photo through TinEye and then select "Sort by biggest image". I use Google Images as well, but I don't think it's as good as it used to be, so I started using Bing.
- I hope this helps! Feel free to ask me any more questions you have. FunnyMath (talk) 23:38, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
- Very helpful! I'm familiar with the copyright law, but the sourcing you do is super interesting. Thanks for this very detailed explanation and all of the tools that you provided as well. I run into issues where I find a really good image from Alamy, but the watermarks prevent me from uploading it so I am interested in trying out your tool. Hope I can upload some cool things thanks to you. Best, MonkeyBBGB (talk) 14:16, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
- I'm glad to help you!
- Another thing is I read the Wikipedia article for a person I'm interested in. It helps me get an idea of what to look up on Google. If someone studied at, say University of Maryland, College Park, I'd look to see if there's a yearbook photo from the university archives or Ancestry.com. If someone went to Denmark, where copyright terms for photos are short, I'd look to see if any public domain Danish photos can be found. FunnyMath (talk) 14:34, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
- That makes sense to me. I don't have a newspapers.com or Ancestry.com account, so those aren't sources that I can scour through at the moment. I mostly look through digital collections of lots of Universities and that is super helpful. The issues with those is that I run into unpublished works a lot, so the copyright term is longer. I did find a photo on eBay of Zita Johann that is from 1927. I just uploaded it here, and I put it on her Wikipedia page. Thank you for this inspiration! MonkeyBBGB (talk) 14:44, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah, university archives have a lot of photos without information about its publication. What you can do is contact the university archivist and ask if they know when the photo was published. You can even ask for a picture of the back side of the photo, or any documents associated with the photo, and you might be surprised at what you can find! For example, I asked a university archivist about the publication for this photo. They sent me a scan of the back side (see here), and it has a stamp which strongly implies that it was published at some point. The archivist suggested I contact the Smithsonian Institute for scans of the back sides of their photos, and so I did. The institute not only showed me the back sides, but also a write-up that comes with the photo. See here. FunnyMath (talk) 14:57, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
- Also for paywalled sources like Ancestry.com, you can try to see if you can access them for free from The Wikipedia Library. It has both Newspapers.com and Ancestry.com. However, I think you need to write a summary of what you've accomplished (e.g. created X number of good articles, Y number of DYKs), since there's limited spots available.
- You can also try to see if your local library or school can get you access. FunnyMath (talk) 15:19, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
- Had no clue about the Wikipedia Library! I will definitely keep myself on the lookout for that one. And I appreciate the advice on contacting them for extra documents. Usually when I do contact it is only for verification of what is already stated or why. Love hearing the stories of rescuing things from obscure copyright and putting them into the public domain. Love all of the knowledge and resources you have shared. Thank you :) MonkeyBBGB (talk) 16:06, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
- You're welcome! I'm glad that I could help. Yes, the public domain is very important, and it's good that Wikimedia Commons is where we can collect public domain stuff all in one place. Let's all upload as much as we can! FunnyMath (talk) 17:18, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
- By the way, it looks like Newspapers.com and Ancestry.com are now completely free; you no longer need to apply. FunnyMath (talk) 17:36, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you! Seems that I need to wait another 2 weeks to hit 6 months of editing before I can use it. I am very new to this, but I do it a lot :)
- I found this image of Arthur Byron in a 1915 play. Can you make out the name of the author on the back?
- Also is it possible for us to create a page to share and correspond on so we don't keep making this one so much longer? lol MonkeyBBGB (talk) 19:36, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
- Oh, I didn't know about the 6 month waiting period. It's been a while since I last used the library. :P
- I'm not too sure either, but if I had to guess, the top stamp says "Photographer: White - N.Y." The one below says "Photograph by Brown Brothers 126 West 42nd St., N. Y."
- As for creating a page, I'm not sure, since I've never seen that done before. What you can do, when the replies get too indented, is put {{Od}} at the beginning of your reply and it will make an outdent. FunnyMath (talk) 20:03, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for that info! Will totally put one of those in. MonkeyBBGB (talk) 22:02, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
- MonkeyBBGB (talk) 19:24, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
- Seems my post didn't work. I found this image of actor John Laurie from Disney. It is 1960 and I can't find a renewal despite its copyright tag. What do you think about it? MonkeyBBGB (talk) 19:24, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
- @MonkeyBBGB: If there was a renewal, it would be found in the online catalog. I first clicked "Set Search Limit", then use "Range" with 1960 and 1961. I then clicked the "Other Search Options" tab, typed in "Kidnapped" in the first search box. I see renewals for movies, music and text. There's only three works which could possibly have the photo: Kidnapped No. 378, No. 1600 and No. 1101. However, all of them seem to only have drawings and not photos, so I think you can upload it. FunnyMath (talk) 06:25, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- Actually, No. 1101 does have photos (see [1]). But from the few pictures I see, none of them have the eBay photo, so you should still be able to upload it. There is a little bit of doubt, but I don't think it's significant enough for COM:PCP. FunnyMath (talk) 06:29, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks! I've gone ahead and uploaded the photo. I have also put in that information that you provided. Very helpful. MonkeyBBGB (talk) 13:52, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- You're welcome! I'm always glad to help. FunnyMath (talk) 16:30, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks! I've gone ahead and uploaded the photo. I have also put in that information that you provided. Very helpful. MonkeyBBGB (talk) 13:52, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- Actually, No. 1101 does have photos (see [1]). But from the few pictures I see, none of them have the eBay photo, so you should still be able to upload it. There is a little bit of doubt, but I don't think it's significant enough for COM:PCP. FunnyMath (talk) 06:29, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- @MonkeyBBGB: If there was a renewal, it would be found in the online catalog. I first clicked "Set Search Limit", then use "Range" with 1960 and 1961. I then clicked the "Other Search Options" tab, typed in "Kidnapped" in the first search box. I see renewals for movies, music and text. There's only three works which could possibly have the photo: Kidnapped No. 378, No. 1600 and No. 1101. However, all of them seem to only have drawings and not photos, so I think you can upload it. FunnyMath (talk) 06:25, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- Seems my post didn't work. I found this image of actor John Laurie from Disney. It is 1960 and I can't find a renewal despite its copyright tag. What do you think about it? MonkeyBBGB (talk) 19:24, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for that info! Will totally put one of those in. MonkeyBBGB (talk) 22:02, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
- By the way, it looks like Newspapers.com and Ancestry.com are now completely free; you no longer need to apply. FunnyMath (talk) 17:36, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
- You're welcome! I'm glad that I could help. Yes, the public domain is very important, and it's good that Wikimedia Commons is where we can collect public domain stuff all in one place. Let's all upload as much as we can! FunnyMath (talk) 17:18, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
- Had no clue about the Wikipedia Library! I will definitely keep myself on the lookout for that one. And I appreciate the advice on contacting them for extra documents. Usually when I do contact it is only for verification of what is already stated or why. Love hearing the stories of rescuing things from obscure copyright and putting them into the public domain. Love all of the knowledge and resources you have shared. Thank you :) MonkeyBBGB (talk) 16:06, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah, university archives have a lot of photos without information about its publication. What you can do is contact the university archivist and ask if they know when the photo was published. You can even ask for a picture of the back side of the photo, or any documents associated with the photo, and you might be surprised at what you can find! For example, I asked a university archivist about the publication for this photo. They sent me a scan of the back side (see here), and it has a stamp which strongly implies that it was published at some point. The archivist suggested I contact the Smithsonian Institute for scans of the back sides of their photos, and so I did. The institute not only showed me the back sides, but also a write-up that comes with the photo. See here. FunnyMath (talk) 14:57, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
- That makes sense to me. I don't have a newspapers.com or Ancestry.com account, so those aren't sources that I can scour through at the moment. I mostly look through digital collections of lots of Universities and that is super helpful. The issues with those is that I run into unpublished works a lot, so the copyright term is longer. I did find a photo on eBay of Zita Johann that is from 1927. I just uploaded it here, and I put it on her Wikipedia page. Thank you for this inspiration! MonkeyBBGB (talk) 14:44, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
- Very helpful! I'm familiar with the copyright law, but the sourcing you do is super interesting. Thanks for this very detailed explanation and all of the tools that you provided as well. I run into issues where I find a really good image from Alamy, but the watermarks prevent me from uploading it so I am interested in trying out your tool. Hope I can upload some cool things thanks to you. Best, MonkeyBBGB (talk) 14:16, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
Cool new image I'm gonna upload[edit]
Hi FunnyMath!
I recently came across this person while researching Fremont, Ohio. And his image was Fair Use, but it seemed old enough to be public domain.
So I went to the source, called the library, and they verified that it is in the public domain since it is from 1925. It is going to be updated by Monday, and then I'm going to upload it. MonkeyBBGB (talk) 00:11, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
- Awesome! Thanks for sharing this with me, I appreciate it. Yeah, works published in 1925 that followed all the copyright formalities only became public domain in 2021, so that's probably why they haven't updated the copyright status. Good job! FunnyMath (talk) 02:08, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
- It is uploaded now :) and on his page MonkeyBBGB (talk) 13:31, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
- I see it! Great job. FunnyMath (talk) 17:02, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
- It is uploaded now :) and on his page MonkeyBBGB (talk) 13:31, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
nancy drew[edit]
hi! wanted to ask how nancy drew caught your attention. been trying to find something cool to look into recently, and feeling a bit stuck. trying to do a mix of more modern (like even 1950s) and older (1920s). Really wanting 2024 public domain now. MonkeyBBGB (talk) 01:02, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
- Hello again! I guess Nancy Drew caught my attention because it's a very well-known book series, and content relating to women is often under-represented on Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons. There's also a lot of books in the series, and I'm curious about how many book covers I can upload. I collect all the book covers in the Nancy Drew Mystery Stories gallery, and I'm hoping that it would look impressive once I upload everything that's public domain.
- Maybe you can also try to find a pre-1989 book series, and find book covers to upload.
- I'm looking forward to 2024 as well. It's the year in which en:Steamboat Willie will finally be in the public domain! FunnyMath (talk) 01:41, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
- that is really cool! I love that. It is already looking impressive to me. I need to get better at categories. I always learn a lot when I ask you questions. I've been taking a course on Creative Commons all summer. And that has taught me so much stuff. I love this poster here. It is of an American film from 1928, but the poster was released in New Zealand. So I found the right tags and I'm doing my final project on New Zealand copyright now.
- I'm really interested in 1930s-1950s comic book art. I'm sure a lot of it is not renewed. Any advice on where you look for publications? MonkeyBBGB (talk) 02:12, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
- Steamboat Willie is really cool. That is totally the big event and has huge implications. I'm excited because it will mean I can update this poster with a public domain copy. The short is public domain and so is that poster. It has no mark and it has no registration. The only thing keeping it stuck is Mickey still being copyrighted. So in 2024 this work from 1933 (not 1928) can become public domain again because a 1928 work entered. MonkeyBBGB (talk) 02:14, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
- I'm happy to hear that you learned something. I never knew that there's a course on Creative Commons; it sounds very interesting! That poster looks really good.
- I'm not quite sure where to look for comic book art, to be honest. I see that there's one site called Comic Book+ that seems to have a lot of comic books.
- Interesting that the 1933 short will be public domain next year in addition to Steamboat Willie. FunnyMath (talk) 18:00, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
- The Mad Doctor is already public domain, but has weird copyright issues due to Pluto and Mickey being in it. The titular doctor is fully public domain in that original appearance which is cool.
- Thanks for the comic book resource, will peruse. I uploaded a Nancy Drew cover and it was a lot of fun! Also really glad to hear you focus on works related to women. Super cool and I agree that they are often under-represented.
- If you wanted to take the course it is $500 and you get a certificate at the end. The Creative Commons people facilitate it so it is very legit. MonkeyBBGB (talk) 18:49, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
- I see, interesting copyright situation there.
- You're welcome, and thanks for uploading the Nancy Drew cover for me!
- And thanks for sending me a link to the course. It sounds interesting, and I might take it someday. FunnyMath (talk) 04:38, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
- I found a book series with an interesting set of covers. The series is The Black Stallion. As far as I can tell every cover except for the last one is in the public domain due to lack of copyright notice on the dust jackets. I've uploaded a few of them. I even found one with a photo of the author, so now he has one on his page.
- Is your primary interest in works that are between 1928-1989? I know I find it cool when I discover some public domain item from years that should be under copyright. I think since we (as a society) see the most prominent works of each year and those are under copyright that the idea of a majority of the works of those years being public domain is skewed. In reality it seem that there are tens of thousands of published works that are public domain. It is also so cool to explore.
- I also do really enjoy exploring 1910s and 1920s works however. I'm reading Camera Man by Dana Stevens currently, and that does a fairly wide exploration of 1910s and 1920s early filmmaking. MonkeyBBGB (talk) 20:24, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
- @MonkeyBBGB: Good job on uploading The Black Stallion book covers. They look interesting.
- Yes, I mainly upload works from 1928 to 1989, but sometimes I'll upload a few pre-1928 works here and there. I agree that people have a misconception that the majority of works published 1928-1989 are under copyright, but in fact they're not. As you pointed out, it's an example of survivorship bias. It's kind of like how people only remember famous works from the past, while also remembering bad works from the present, and so they think art has "declined".
- Camera Man sounds like an interesting book. I'll check it out one day. FunnyMath (talk) 08:02, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
Welcome Back![edit]
Nice to see you uploading again! This is MonkeyBBGB, I just changed my user name.
Hope you've been well. I've been doing a lot of uploading these last few months. Been really into Mutt and Jeff comic strips the last few days too.
Been really expanding what I get into and reforming my user pages with projects and categories made. SDudley (talk) 20:23, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
- @SDudley: Hey there! Thanks, I hope you're doing well too. Life's been busy during September, so I didn't upload anything for a while. I'm striving to continue to upload regularly. I recently found some old Chinese newspapers with photos of the Korean War, so I'm focusing on those right now. I made some galleries here that show off what I found: en:Talk:Korean_War#Need_a_North_Korean_soldier_pic_in_the_infobox.
- Those Mutt and Jeff comic strips look interesting. Keep up the good work!
- Your user pages look interesting. I'll definitely take a look at them. FunnyMath (talk) 05:54, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
- I love those images! Very cool things to go through. Do you have these newspapers in hand or are they all found online?
- Quite interesting to see works with other country copyright tags since I focus on American items.
- I've been going through many different topics and really gearing up for 2024 in public domain. I find the comics interesting since I really only know ones going back to the 50s, so its cool to see some that were big for decades before. And the public domain nature is very cool too. SDudley (talk) 14:48, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
- No, I don't actually own the newspapers unfortunately. I use scans of old newspapers that I found on an online Chinese book store.
- The copyright tags for other countries are interesting indeed. From what I've seen on COM:North Korea, their copyright laws don't even mention works made by an anonymous or pseudonymous author. It's unfortunate that I can only upload North Korean photos up until 1952, while the Korean War ended in 1953. This is because I need to comply with the URAA.
- It's great to see that you're uploading comics from the 1920s. I'm not quite familiar with 1920s comics, but I know that the first comic strip of the French comic series The Adventures of Tintin will be public domain in the US in 2025. The author died in 1983 however, so it wouldn't even be in the public domain in France until 2054. It'll be interesting to see comic strips from other countries in addition to the US. FunnyMath (talk) 18:23, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
- That is a fascinating fact about TinTin that I was not aware about. As 2024 nears I continue to be quite excited about 1928 works. It is good to know of another work for 1929 to be excited about. Truly I just look forward to all published works from the 1920s being free to use.
- The lack of proper notice for anonymous authors is tough in regards to North Korea. History gets so locked behind copyright law and it sure is a shame. I'm glad you found online scans.
- Do you ever acquire physical copies of things for upload? I've been sitting on a small 1902 pamphlet book by Ozias Dodge that I've been meaning to upload. SDudley (talk) 19:32, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Same, I'm also excited for 1928 and 1929. Also, I should've said that Tintin was Belgian, not French. The comic strip was written in French, so that's probably why I was confused. Still, it's life + 70 years for Belgium as well.
- Yes, and also there's a lack of digitized North Korean works on the Internet, which makes the problem worse. I'm looking through an online People's Daily archive to find photos that might have been first published in North Korea. Can't do any photos past 1952, but oh well.
- I've only acquired a few physical photos to upload, all of them from eBay. The photos sold on eBay are quite expensive, so I can't buy as much as I want to. The eBay scans are all limited to 1600px for the highest dimension, so getting the physical item can allow me to get a higher quality scan. I'm hoping to get around to uploading the photos I have one day. FunnyMath (talk) 04:19, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
- I didn't know that eBay limited the resolution of scans available to be uploaded there. I've definitively got that bug as well to get from eBay, but things tend to be pricey. I want to upload a nice image for a 1925 film called The Coast Patrol. And I found a good one on eBay, but it is north of $50 and that is a bit higher than I have the money to spend at the moment.
- I wish that North Korea's laws weren't so limiting, but I guess that is the world of copyright that we live in. I appreciate all of the efforts you put into uploading works despite the hard stop.
- I know that once one gets so steeped in public domain materials the hard stop years really start to feel arbitrary. And while I've gotten much more comfortable with going into years that have definitive copyrights still existing, I do still find myself discourage from engaging with works from those years incase they are still under copyright.
- My real issue is that I love to jump around materials and topics, so I don't ever focus as much as I should. Currently I'm not uploading more Mutt and Jeff because I'm lazy about it.
- Thank you for the correction on Tintin's country of origin as well. SDudley (talk) 19:32, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, the prices on eBay are quite high. You can probably wait, and if the item still hasn't been sold after some time, the seller usually gives a discount. I checked the eBay link you gave me. For me, the price is shown as US $40.00. It's probably not unusual for this to happen. I remember an ExpressVPN ad on YouTube saying that you can get cheaper prices by using their VPN. Don't know how that works. :P
- The hard stop years do seem arbitrary. But thank you for appreciating my efforts!
- Fortunately, for non-US works, Commons is less strict with the precautionary principle when it comes to URAA compliance. According to meta:Wikimedia Foundation Legal department/URAA Statement and COM:URAA, files are only deleted if there is significant doubt about whether a file complies with the URAA. So as long as it's plausible that a photo complies with the URAA, you can most likely upload it.
- I also have a habit of switching topics when uploading files. I've been procrastinating on the Nancy Drew book covers for a while now. I'm definitely going to continue adding more book covers at some point though.
- As for the correction, you're welcome! FunnyMath (talk) 03:27, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
- I think its fine to take your time on projects. Don't want to burn yourself out since this is a hobby it seems for us both. I like the Nancy Drew book covers, so I am glad to see them get added. That project really opened my eyes to how many works of art through books are actually public domain. I've been sitting on some book cover scans I took on my trip at the start of October. Haven't had the urge to upload them yet.
- I don't work as much with URAA works, but that is good to know.
- Speaking of an interesting copyright case, I found out about an unpublished Beatrix Potter book yesterday. It was written sometime in the 1910s, but wasn't released until 2016 after a manuscript was found in 2015. By my understanding of how copyright law I believe the text of the book is public domain... in the United States. I wrote more specifics on the book's Wikipedia talk page.
- I also love to upload Public Domain movie posters. If you haven't seen them then I'd appreciate your eyes on the page. I mention this because once again your work with The FBI Story poster showed me how many posters are public domain. Though I did run into a likely issue with one poster a few days ago and was unable to upload it because the copyright seems to have been renewed. It'll be public domain in 2031. SDudley (talk) 19:14, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
- I've had plenty of experience with burn-outs, so I know how it feels. Gotta focus on my health and other work as well. I'm happy to hear that those Nancy Drew book covers have enlightened you to the world of the public domain. Can't wait to see those scans that you're gonna upload, but of course take your time.
- That Beatrix Potter book is a really cool find. It's really hard to find a work that you know for sure wasn't published before 2003, so that's a very valuable discovery.
- The movie poster page looks so cool. It's got so many posters. Glad to hear that you learned something from my work on that FBI poster. Of all the movie posters I uploaded, I didn't find a single one with a renewal, so that renewal is an interesting rare find as well.
- I finally got another batch of Korean War photos uploaded. They're from a People's Daily newspaper which was published in China, but it seems plausible that they were first published in Korea, so hopefully there won't be any problems. FunnyMath (talk) 05:08, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
- Hello. I've been working on other public domain projects outside of Wikimedia Commons, so I haven't been active as much this last week. I look forward to when I can share some of those updates, but the projects are in the works!
- I got around to one of the scans for the books, but it seems my work didn't pan out as well as I would have liked. So I had to resort to eBay, but I did still seem to get a good cover. My photos of the dustjacket do help to prove the lack of copyright notice.
- I'm still not entirely sure on that Beatrix Potter book, but I'll leave it as an interesting copyright curio for now.
- And thank you for the notice on the movie poster page. I created it in part due to your excellent Nancy Drew page. I look forward to continuing to grow it.
- Very nice images from that newspaper! Do you ever personally put your images on Wikipedia pages, or hope that someone finds them? I know that I like to sometimes find pages and update them with new images I've gotten for Wikimedia. Though I also just like to expand the catalog of available works here. Speaking of, here is an 1878 painting that someone on reddit asked for. I couldn't find a high resolution version without watermarks, so I uploaded it myself to here for people if they are interested. I also found it to be very cool looking. There is such a wealth of images on here that are just so tough to easily locate elsewhere on the internet. That is a huge part of why I love Wikimedia Commons. SDudley (talk) 05:43, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
- Nice to hear that you have other public domain projects. I'm actually really interested, so do keep me updated!
- I saw the book cover you uploaded. It's cool that you can do book covers from the UK and not just the US, since those books could be published in the US within 30 days after being published in the UK.
- I do put the images I upload on Wikipedia myself, but not all of them. Sometimes those unused images do get found by someone else and then get used on Wikipedia, and those are nice to see as well. My images end up being scattered across different language editions of Wikipedia because of that.
- That Thor painting looks really good. Lots of cool stuff on Heritage Auctions.
- Thanks for sharing me on all your updates. It's always interesting to see them! FunnyMath (talk) 16:06, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
- Here is one of the projects I did. My partner's family had some yearbooks (1978-1980), and the Columbus Metropolitan Library was interested in scanning them, so we sent them in. They are all online now, and I got a credit line for helping to facilitate the donation! There are some interesting things in them. I pulled an image of Jack Hanna from them. But now with some proper scans I updated the image from the original one I did on my iPhone. SDudley (talk) 19:34, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
- @SDudley: That's so cool! It's great that you donated the yearbooks. I look forward to your other projects. Right now, I'm busy with real life, but I'll be more active after 2 weeks. I have some ideas of what I'll upload later. FunnyMath (talk) 07:18, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- Here is one of the projects I did. My partner's family had some yearbooks (1978-1980), and the Columbus Metropolitan Library was interested in scanning them, so we sent them in. They are all online now, and I got a credit line for helping to facilitate the donation! There are some interesting things in them. I pulled an image of Jack Hanna from them. But now with some proper scans I updated the image from the original one I did on my iPhone. SDudley (talk) 19:34, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
File:Commemorative envelope for the 2003 National People's Congress signed by Wen Jiabao, March 19, 2003.png[edit]
And also:
- File:Commemorative envelope for the 2003 National People's Congress signed by Wen Jiabao, March 19, 2003 (crop of the signature of Wen Jiabao).png
- File:Commemorative envelope for the 30th anniversary of the Chinese economic reform signed by Wen Jiabao, December 2008.png
- File:Commemorative envelope for the 2009 National People's Congress signed by Wen Jiabao, 2009.png
0x0a (talk) 20:44, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
File:"Message from the Minister" by Wang Yi on the official website of the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the People's Republic of China, July 28, 2023 (title and signature of Wang Yi).png[edit]
0x0a (talk) 11:50, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- 你好,请从中国政府的公文获取签名,例如[1])。中国政府网站的内容默认保留版权。谢谢。0x0a (talk) 12:27, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- 不好意思,我下次小心一点。谢谢您帮我解释。 FunnyMath (talk) 07:20, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
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Taivo (talk) 10:24, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
File:Truck that killed Neilia Hunter and Naomi Christina Biden (Evening Journal staff photo by Fred Comegys).jpg[edit]
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Taivo (talk) 10:25, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
Public Domain Day Projects[edit]
Hi @FunnyMath!
I said I had some more projects to share, and here is one of them. I did the research for Duke's Public Domain Day page for 2024! It was a lot of fun and I think I gained a lot of new skills while doing it. They also conducted an interview with me that you can read here if you desire. Next week I have an article being published on Mickey Mouse over at CartoonResearch that I am excited about. And to round this out, I posted a defense on the deletion requests about the car crash that killed Neilia and Naomi Biden. SDudley (talk) 19:29, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- @SDudley: Thank you again for sharing. The interview is quite interesting. I actually also watched the Adam Ruins Everything video on the public domain years before I started my Commons account. The story of your Winnie-the-Pooh tattoo was also interesting. Thanks for helping me with the deletion requests as well. I had to be away for a while to decompress. FunnyMath (talk) 20:34, 23 March 2024 (UTC)